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Red Arch/Blue Arch Flash Polls Agree: Mitt Romney Won The First Presidential Debate

Patch took the pulse Republican and Democratic activists after the October 3 Presidential debate in Denver.

Political activists, and organizers on both ends of the political spectrum in Missouri are voicing agreement Thursday that fomer Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney "won" the first presidential debate with Barack Obama, held Wednesday in Denver.

Patch conducted a flash poll late Wednesday night as part of the Red Arch/Blue Arch series of surveys taking the pulse of political thought leaders heading up to the November election. Responses came from 11 Republicans and 14 Democrats.

Nine Republicans felt Romney won the debate, as did 6 Democrats.

"Wow. This was an absolute destruction. The key to a challenger is to look like he belongs w/ the most powerful man in the world, and Romney did that," responded one Repubilcan.

"Obama was very off, and seemed angry, should have done better," wrote another.

"You fight fire with fire. Romney was aggressive, Obama was passive.....big mistake by Obama," wrote one Democrat.

Democrats said President Obama's attempt to highlight the lack of specifics in a Romney agenda would stick out to both progressives and swing voters in the state, while GOP backers pointed to the debate's focus on the private sector vs. government areas that would resonate with conservatives and swing voters in Missouri.

Missouri is still widely viewed nationally as likely to end up in Romney's column next month.

Patch also asked if their candidate's debate performance makes it more likely he will win the 2012 presidential election.

Eight Democrats said they were neutral on the question, with 3 agreeing in some way and 3 disagreeing.

On the Republican side, 10 agreed in some way. One respondent did not offer an opinion.

"I have hope again for the first time in a long time that Romney might win," one Republican wrote.

 

Agree? Disagree? Tell us why in the comment section!

 

The Red Arch/Blue Arch Survey 

Patch political surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population, but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican and Democratic activists, party leaders and elected officials in Missouri. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all responded to this week's questions. Interviews for this poll were conducted the week of Sept. 4. 

Patch will be conducting Red Arch and Blue Arch surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of conservatives, liberals and moderates on the ground in Missouri.

If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a bi-weekly survey that lasts just a few minutes, please email Gregg.Palermo@patch.com.

 

The Red Arch Roster:

Ruth Springer (former Olivette Mayor), Frederic Steinbach (former Chesterfield Mayor), Randy Jotte (Candidate for Congress), Katy Forand (Gravois Township Committeewoman) Scott Rupp (State Senator/Secretary of State Candidate), Rick Stokes (Wentzville Alderman/State Rep. Candidate), Charlie Hinderliter (State Legislative campaign manager), Mark Parkinson (State Rep.), Chrissy Sommer (State Rep.), Jon Bennett (St. Charles Township Committeeman), Eugene Dokes (Chairman of St. Charles County Republican Central Committee), Chuck Gross (former State Senator), Cheryl Bates (St. Charles Young Republicans President), Penny Henke (St. Charles County Republican Central Committeewoman), Joe Cronin (St. Charles County Council), Terry Hollander (St. Charles County Council), Mike Nunnery (Republican voter), Jim Pepper (O'Fallon City Council), David Blanke (Lewis & Clark Republican Township Committeeman), Robyn Hamlin (Candidate for Congress), Don Bickowski (Jefferson County Council member), Linda Van De Riet (Jefferson County Republican Central Committee member), Renee Reuter (Jefferson County Council Member), D.J. Cully (Jefferson County Council candidate), Roy W. Sims (High Ridge Township Republican committeeman candidate), Celeste Witzel (GOP Committeewoman for the Oakville Township), Alan Leaderbrand (GOP Committeeman for the Lemay Township), Kourtney Lamb (President of the Brentwood Young Republicans), Dennis Broadbooks , (Wild Horse Township), Eileen Tyrrell (Meramec Township Member), Judy Hon (Chesterfield Township Committeewoman), Anne Gassel (Wild Horse Township Committeewoman), Chris Howard (Lafayette Township Committeeman/Convention Delegate), Kevin Rejent (Election Attorney), Richard C. Rowe (Republican voter), Rekha Sharma (State Rep. Candidate), Darin Morley (Reboot Congress blogger), Mark Zinn (GOP Consultant), Cynthia Davis (candidate for Lt. Governor), Sue Allen (State Rep.), Claire Chosid (Republican voter), John Diehl (State Rep.), Lee Presser (blogger/tv host), Gabe Jones (Attorney General candidate Ed Martin's Communications Director), Carl Bearden (Former State Rep/Exec. Dir. United for Missouri), Michael Morton (Regional Political Director/Ann Wagner campaign), Christopher Brooks (Candidate For County Central Committee), Marsha Haefner (State Rep.), Cloria Brown (State Rep.), Philip Scherry (Rock Hill Alderman), Derek Michael Spencer (Regional Political Director/Brad Lager For Lt. Gov.), Brian Spencer (State Rep. candidate), Catherine Dreher (Candidate for Committeewoman candidate), Annette Read (Candidate, Missouri River Township GOP Committeewoman), Chris Gard (State Rep. candidate), Anthony Pousosa (St. Louis County Council candidate), Kit Crancer (Chief of Staff, State Senator Jane Cunningham), Cole McNary (Candidate for State Treasurer), Michael Burr (Creve Coeur Township Committee Candidate), Maria Burr (Creve Coeur Township Committee Candidate), Bill Stouffer (Candidate for Secretary of State), Tyler Holyfield (State Rep. Candidate), David Wissler (Gravois Township Committee candidate), Pat Walker (Maryland Heights Township Committee candidate), Maggie Walker (Maryland Heights Township Committee candidate), Scott Pinkham (Boone Township Committee candidate), Teresa Douglas (Lemay Township committee candidate), Larry McGowen (Wildwood City Council), Marc Perez (former State Rep. candidate), Arthur Merdinian (Mayor of Olivette), Walt Young (Former Ballwin Mayor), Bryan Koen (Florissant Township Committeeman)

 

The Blue Arch Roster: Jake Zimmerman (St. Louis County Assessor), Bert Boxerman (Creve Coeur Township Committeeman), Tracy McCreery (State Representative), Jeanne Antoine (Olivette City Council), Missy Waldman (Olivette City Council), Richard Callow (PR Strategist), John Callahan (Committeeman for St. Charles County Township), Julie Biermann (Committeewoman for St. Charles County Township), Charissa Mayes (Committeewoman for St. Charles County Township), Jerry Daugherty (St. Charles County Councilman), Keith English (Florissant City Councilman/State Rep. candidate), Mary Elizabeth Dorsey (Florissant Township Committeewoman), Chuck Banks (Former Jefferson County Executive), Jo Ann Karll (DNC Convention delegate), Mary Broida (Fenton Committeewoman), Bob Usher (Voter), Tammy Vent (Rock Township Committeewoman), LaDonna Appelbaum (Convention Delegate), Timothy Green (State Senator), Gina Mitten (Richmond Heights Councilmember/State Rep. Candidate), Jill Schupp (State Representative), Jim Descher (Voter), Ken Curtis (West County Democrats Co-Chair), Steve Biggs (Meramec Township Committeeman), John Niemeyer (Meramec Township), Jim Frain  (Voter), Julie Dougherty (Voter), Linda Robson (Voter), Jim McHugh (Aide to former St. Louis County Executive), Molly McHugh (St. Louis County Planning Commission), Bob Burns (Affton School Board), Mark Powell (Former Arnold Mayor), John Messmer (Former DNC alternative delegate), Karl Frank, Jr. (Former Mehlville School Board Member/Activist), Donna Seidel (activist), Tom Diehl (Former School Board Member/Activist), Jim Barrett (Activist), Harvey Ferdman (Maryland Heights Township 2nd VP), Rod Jennings (University City School Board Member), Jane Dueker (Former Assistant AG/Chief of Staff To Governor Bob Holden), Gina Walsh (State Senate Candidate), Morton Todd (St. Charles County Democratic Committee Chairman), Mary "Kate" Laughlin (Voter), Rod Hoffman (State Rep. Candidate), Beverly Cowling (Voter), Bill Stinson (State Rep.), Russ Craven (St. Charles County Democratic Central Committee), Theresa Borchert (Voter), Jim Karll (Voter), Jeff Wagener (Former St. Louis County Councilman), Pat Dolan (St. Louis County Council), Stacey Newman (State Representative), Cheryl Hibbeler (Former St. Charles County Council Representative), Deb Lavender (State Rep. Candidate), Kevin O'Malley (Fundraiser/Alternate Convention Delegate), Susan Meredith (State Rep. candidate), Susan Montee (Lt. Governor candidate), Bob Burns (State Rep. Candidate), Jim Karll (St. Charles County Democrats), Gloria Nickerson (Activist), Maureen Rogers-Bouxsein (Activist), Jo Ann Hughes (Activist)

 

Tell us what you thought of the first debate, who won, who lost and why!

Myra Creasy October 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Romney all the way
flyoverland October 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Romney proved the emperor has no clothes.
Jo Beck October 5, 2012 at 01:57 am
Romney clearly won the debate. President Obama does really well and sounds good, with a teleprompter, but in this situation, without the teleprompter, it was like he couldn't think and talk at the same time.
D. Walker October 5, 2012 at 09:58 am
Sorry but I can't understand how one can say the winner is the one who cheated by telling lies that sound good and was delivered well. A very good liar is certainly not considered a great man by any stretch of the imagination. It is shocking how the masses of all stripes from Republicans to Democrats can see Romney as the winner. Seeing this is becomes very clear how the Anti-christ will so easily deceive the masses. So sad indeed.
Myra Creasy October 5, 2012 at 11:45 am
Talk about who is Anti-Christ that is Obama
JB October 5, 2012 at 11:52 am
D. Walker, Both candidates are liars. Four years ago Obama was elected because he was charismatic and delivered a good speech. Certainly not because of experience. People wanted to believe in "hope and change". I can only hope there is a change in the white house this November.
RDBet October 5, 2012 at 01:47 pm
The GOP faithful are like sailors come ashore, after being out at sea too long. Latching onto anything they can.
Myra Creasy October 5, 2012 at 06:13 pm
You are right I don't have to much faith in our Fearless Leaders.
Gary W. Elliott October 6, 2012 at 11:03 am
President Obama did not seem angry to me, rather more thoughtfull..and surprised at the lies Romney told (telling lies has been a constant for Romney). Romney was the agressor, for sure, but louder is not righter..just a loud liar!
The Missourian October 6, 2012 at 02:45 pm
^ That. +1.
Scott Simon October 9, 2012 at 04:25 pm
Gee, no kidding? Tell us a story about anyone in this bunch who thought Obama won the debate. Now that's real news. The painfully obvious is not news.

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