Should Creve Coeur Keep Red Light Cameras?

The city's contract with American Traffic Solutions expires in September 2013.

In a memo to City Council members to be discussed Monday night, Creve Coeur Police Chief Glenn Eidman suggests keeping the city's red light camera program.

The current contract with American Traffic Solutions, expires next September.

The cameras are located at Ladue Road & Couer De Ville and Ladue & Emerson, Olive Boulevard and Interstate 270, and Olive Boulevard at North New Ballas Rd.

According to the police analysis, there have been no fatalities at the intersections since the cameras were deployed. At the Ladue-270 area. Sideswipes and lane changes have increased at Olive and 270, while red light running crashes at that intersection have averaged 1 per year since cameras were installed.

Red light cameras have their critics both legally and in the court of public opinion. Courts have upheld the city's program.

Chief Eidman's memo compares city survey results when residents were asked about the cameras.

In 2008:

  • 58 percent supported cameras
  • 31 percent did not
  • 10 percent were not sure
  • 1 percent was unfamiliar with the cameras

In 2011:

  • 42 percent supported cameras
  • 45 percent did not support cameras
  • 13 percent were not sure

City leaders have also had to convince skeptical residents that the cameras are not just a money grab, and that a sliding scale is in place. In fiscal year 2009, the cameras brought in $1,138,529 in fines. In 2010 and 2011, there were $760,325 and $738,416 respectively collected in fines.

Tell us about your red light camera experiences in Creve Coeur. Do you think the city should keep them?



flyoverland October 08, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Get rid of these cameras. If someone is going to run a red light, obviously, a camera isn't going to stop him.
Brian Ceccarelli October 08, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Do your drivers understand that 99% of the tickets you hand out are for running a red light by a fraction of a second? Do your drivers know that it is your own traffic engineers who are responsible for 99.9999% of all red light running? Drivers Test: How much time does a yellow light give you? A. Half the time it takes you to stop. B. 100% of the time it takes you to stop. C. 150% of the time it takes you to stop. The answer is A. Which is the reason people slam on the brakes and beat the light. It is also the reason why no driver has the time to slow down before entering the intersection. Turning drivers and drivers at close-by intersections fall victim to this error, an error which results in punishment and death. For the proof: http://redlightrobber.com
Warren Martin October 08, 2012 at 05:29 PM
NO: Stats in other communities like Washington showed no change in intersection accidents and if anything, red light violations increased due to driver paranoia. The concept of using our Law Enforcement to raise revenue is an abuse of power and the purpose of LAW ENFORCEMENT IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY -NOT RAISE REVENUE. If suddenly a red light ticket was counted on driver licenses like all other violations resulting in insurance premiums increasing, communities would not allow red light tickets. The city also does not get all the revenue from the $100 ticket, it might be a secret but most cities only get between 2% up to maybe 30% of the fine and the rest goes to the vendor, who also gets service fees if the carmers do not generate income. So its NO on red light cameras - government needs to focus on providing services and not how to generate revenue through ticket quotas and other means.
Brandt Hardin October 09, 2012 at 01:11 AM
Traffic cameras are just another form of Policing for Profit as Capitalism distorts our Justice System. These companies are bottom-feeders and take a 40% cut of the tickets while creating MORE dangerous intersections by fixing the lengths of yellow lights to entrap drivers. You can read about how private companies and crooked politicians have turned our Police forces on their ear in every attempt to squeeze money out of the general public at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-privatized-police-state.html
venkata bodavula October 09, 2012 at 02:44 AM
could you please find out from the city as to what was the total amount of fines collected and from that what was paid to the private company who own and operate the cameras.
Matt Hay October 16, 2012 at 04:53 AM
So, they conduct a survey and only 42% of the residents support the use of the systems? Only would a Police Department who reaps huge fringe benefits from Goldman Sachs Owned American Traffic Solutions (ask the City Administrator how he enjoyed the Box Seats to the Cards Game, and all the food he could eat and drink at the ATS Conference last year, according to reliable sources, he was there). Yep, only 40% of the residents support something, let's keep doing it....... for their own good of course.


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