Snap Poll: Romney's VP Pick Helps Obama-Biden Ticket With Seniors

Influential Democrats polled Saturday said Paul Ryan's budget plan for Medicare is a recipe for the party to run against Republicans in Missouri.

 Mitt Romney's selection of U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan as the GOP's Vice Presidential nominee in the fall, Democrats appear to be licking their chops over the prospects.

That appears to be one of the major takeaways from a snap poll conducted by Patch over the weekend after Ryan was introduced as part of the Republican Party's Presidential ticket.

Patch asked more than 50 Democrats to weigh in on the choice and received 23 responses.

When asked if by adding Ryan to the ticket, Missouri Democrats can win by running against Ryan's existing budget plans and particularly his proposal for Medicare, more than 91 percent agreed in some form.

Ryan, as chairman of the House Budget Committee, has backed a budget plan, which proposes large changes to Medicare, Medicaid and tax rates.

"The Ryan budget can be sold as a very radical plan that significantly reduces the Feds support of some very popular programs. By attacking this budget they attack the ticket and punish them both in the eyes of those most concerned about certain entitlements and fed programs people have grown accustomed to," wrote one respondent.

"His selection will anchor seniors and independents to the Obama side," said another.

It could make for an interesting Vice Presidential debate, another offered:

"The Obama team will have a challenge questioning Ryan on his proposals since he has a well thought out plan to face the bulging deficits. I can hear him posing a "what would you do" face off question when he debates Vice-President Biden."

But whether the choice is enough to put the Show-Me State back into play as a swing state in November is still an open question among Patch panelists, as laid out by their comments:

  • "Ryan is too conservative for Missouri"
  • "Missouri is a Republican state and this pick doesn't move the needle for either camp."
  • "Ryan will strengthen the position of the Republican Party in Missouri and make the state's conservatives even more determined. The real question is how will elderly voters, who lean conservative, feel about his Medicare proposals."
  • It helps McCaskill contrast with Akin and highlight extremism

Only one respondent made reference to the last GOP nominee for Vice President.

"He (Ryan) is smart, relatively well known and well spoken. He is a breath of fresh air, I am sure, after the debacle that was Sarah Palin," the person said.

"I have not spoken to my Republican friends about the pick but I would imagine most will like Romney's pick. So do I and that might give them some pause!" they continued.

What do you think--will the Ryan pick make a difference in Missouri?

Wm August 13, 2012 at 01:05 PM
As a senior I question why this Poll would be valid. WHAT RYAN PROPOSES WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON SENIOR. Obamacare hurts us worse.
Gregg Palermo August 13, 2012 at 01:21 PM
Thanks for your comment...this poll, like the other Red Arch/Blue Arch surveys we've conducted, are unscientific. But they're a great way of taking the pulse at a point in time and starting the conversation.
Tim Forsythe August 13, 2012 at 03:07 PM
The title of your article is very misleading. You make it sound like you polled Missouri electorate and the results show that Seniors have concerns with the Ryan pick, when the reality is you polled a bunch of democrats. Of course they feel that way. I think you need to edit your article to say something like "Ryan pick gives Democrats hopes with Senior vote".
Jim W August 13, 2012 at 03:12 PM
Could not agree more. His proposals are an attempt to solve a major Medicare problem for the next generations, who at present are going to get shafted. They do not affect anyone under 55. The thing that could effect current Medicare recipients is the fact that Obamacare takes $700 billion from Medicare for other purposes. What is that going to do present recepients?
flyoverland August 13, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Even worse, in spite of what the libs are saying, Romney has already said he will use his own plan, not Ryan's. I would rather have a guy who at least has a plan. Obama has not had a budget for over 1000 days.
Jerry August 13, 2012 at 04:16 PM
Paul Ryan is the only guy in the Republican party that Obama is afraid of. He's the sharpest guy in Congress. My guess is, the inclusion of Ryan on the ticket spells one-term Presidency for Carter, er, sorry, I mean Obama.
mary zaggy August 13, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Well, if the only person you think about is yourself, perhaps you will be enthused about Paul Ryan. His heroine, Ayn Rand, scorned altruism and exhalted the cult of selfishness. No wonder that true Christians such as the Nuns on the Bus (see their website) are so strongly repudiating Ryan's plans, and his values. Even those of us over 55 are very concerned, because many of us truly care more about the world and the life--including medical care, social services, and the quality of the community which our children and their children will live in if Paul Ryan gets his way.
GHutch August 13, 2012 at 06:23 PM
When I look at the metrics of Obama's time in office ( continuing unemployment at 8.0%, and increasing Federal Deficit) and the Dem controlled US Senate that cannot pass a budget for three years.... I will have to vote for Republicans. The Democrats just are capable of goverfning.
Jim W August 13, 2012 at 08:55 PM
It is truly sad to see that the above writer thinks that anyone with a different viewpoint from hers is a selfish person who only thinks of themselves. Do you think that the present course of government, dropping the bills on our children and grandchildren is thinking about ourselves. No amount of taxation increases including middle class taxpayers (and they will eventually be included) can even come close to solving the problem. Time for a reality check. Give credit to people who try to find a solution, not to people making false commercials of an aged person being shoved over a cliff.
RegalT62 August 13, 2012 at 09:49 PM
There is a clear ideological difference in the two candidates for the Presidency. The current deficit is a result of the recession and financing two wars. Wars started by a Republican President and the recession resulting from the deregulation by the government and corporate greed. Taxes are historically low and revenue is not being generated - especially revenue that would be gained from those who have sheltered their money in off-shore accounts like Romney. I think it is clear that the policies of the Right have failed, and Ryan is just more of the same. Mary, I agree with you. Someone once said the true sign of a civilized people is how they care for their most vulnerable and I can only hope our country can become more civilized.
Debbie Tolstoi August 13, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Tamara, I couldn't have said it any better if I tried. How fast many of us have forgotten the two costly wars were started during the Republican watch. And yes, corporate greed will be the death of the middle class.
Larry Lazar August 13, 2012 at 11:01 PM
I agree Tamara, well said.
Jim Aspen August 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Obama started with a 10 trillion deficit which now is 16 trillion. Four years of failure for 6 trillion dollars. Time for Obama and Democrats to accept their failures.
John Messmer August 14, 2012 at 01:48 AM
Not sure why anyone would want to hand the keys of the car to the driver that drove the car in the ditch. Yet that is what people are talking about when they insist on giving Romney, Ryan, and conservative ideology a mulligan on the great recession they created. As for Ryan and his budget, Ryan is not a “fiscal conservative" since fiscal conservatives despise deficits and debts. But Ryan's “Roadmap for America’s Future” adds $60 trillion to the national debt and doesn't balance anything until 2060! Ryan’s revised plan wouldn’t reach balance until the 2030s while adding $14 trillion in debt. It adds $6 trillion in debt over the next decade alone — yet Republicans had the cajones to say they wouldn’t raise the debt limit! Stay classy, GOP.
Lauren T. August 14, 2012 at 01:53 AM
What is Romney's stance on Food Stamps and Medicaid? Someone told me today he wants to completely do away with both of them. As a disabled person this would be devastating.
Jim Aspen August 14, 2012 at 02:33 AM
Nobody has actually seen an Obama plan. Romney has a plan, why doesn't Obama?
Jim W August 14, 2012 at 03:36 AM
"Someone " is being very dishonest. Why can't we have a truthful discussion of the problems we are facing.
uh-uh August 14, 2012 at 04:30 AM
Wait a minute...let me get this straight. You asked "over 50" DEMOCRATS about Romney's choice of Paul Ryan for VP and got replies from only 23 of those people. From that you concluded that it "Helps Obama-Biden Ticket with Seniors". Seriously???? If you want a non-partisan evaluation of the Romney-Ryan plan for Medicare, use this link from FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania (a non-political group)... http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/no-end-to-end-medicare-claim/
Gregg Palermo August 14, 2012 at 04:35 AM
We've done these surveys as non-scientific looks at how influencers on both sides of the spectrum feel about a variety of issues. We also asked Republicans about the Ryan selection: http://patch.com/A-wRy2
John Galt August 14, 2012 at 02:07 PM
Why was my post removed? I demand to know why you are censoring commentors. My post did not contain any offensive language.
Gregg Palermo August 14, 2012 at 02:14 PM
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John Messmer August 14, 2012 at 06:51 PM
"Obama started with a 10 trillion deficit which now is 16 trillion. Four years of failure for 6 trillion dollars. Time for Obama and Democrats to accept their failures." Sorry Mr. Aspen. Think again: http://tinyurl.com/8d6wc8q
John Messmer August 14, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Think again: http://tinyurl.com/8d6wc8q
John Messmer August 14, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Think again: http://tinyurl.com/8d6wc8q
Larry Lazar August 14, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Interesting to me that you seem to be only crediting Obama and the Democrats for the debt. I'm pretty sure that debt has been growing for 3 decades now - except for when Clinton was in the office. I'm curious if you also blamed Republican Presidents like Reagan and the Bushes for the debt that was incurred under those administrations? Similiarly, did you blame George W Bush for the financial and economic collapse that occured at the end of his adminstration?
RDBet August 14, 2012 at 07:14 PM
[why is Mittens pretending to be Mr. Economy now. Read his rationale for dropping out in 2008 - from the transcript of concession speach -) Today we are a nation at war. And Barack and Hillary have made their intentions clear regarding Iraq and the war on terror: They would retreat, declare defeat. And the consequence of that would be devastating. It would mean attacks on America, launched from safe havens that would make Afghanistan under the Taliban look like child's play. About this, I have no doubt.
RDBet August 14, 2012 at 07:22 PM
[contd] Now, I disagree with Senator McCain on a number of issues, as you know. But I agree with him on doing whatever it takes to be successful in Iraq, and finding and executing Osama bin Laden. And I agree with him on eliminating Al Qaida and terror worldwide. Now, if I fight on, in my campaign, all the way to the convention... ... I want you to know, I've given this a lot of thought -- I'd forestall the launch of a national campaign and, frankly, I'd make it easier for Senator Clinton or Obama to win. Frankly, in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror. This isn't an easy decision. I hate to lose. My family, my friends, you, my supporters across the country, you've given a great deal to get me to where I have a shot to becoming president. If this were only about me, I'd go on. But it's never been only about me. I entered this race -- I entered this race because I love America. And because I love America, in this time of war, I feel I have to now stand aside for our party and for our country. AUDIENCE: No! No! I will continue to stand for conservative principles. I'll fight alongside you for all the things we believe in. And one of the things we believe in is that we cannot allow the next president of the United States to retreat in the face of evil extremism.


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